The lamanites seemed to be a group of kingdoms with a high king in command. Jan 26, 2015 new developments in the investigation into the origins of the book of mormon. Chris johnson, duane johnson, in a comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain, propose a number of parallel sentence structures between gilbert hunts book the late war and the book of mormon. New computer study purports to detect literary influences on. It seems likely that most latterday saints are unfamiliar with the theory.
Problem is that too many still want to run with it. Debunking the connection between the late war and the book. The nephites had no compunction about using stratagem if it meant sparing bloodshed. Book of mormon and late war comparison mormonleaks. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading the late war against the book of mormon interpreter. This theory that there was a connection between the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain was. The late war, the first book of napoleon if i ever attend gospel doctrine again, i typically leave after sacrament, i will volunteer to read a book of mormon passage.
Chris johnson, duane johnson, in a comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain, propose a number of parallel sentence structures between gilbert hunts book the late war and the book. In october 20, the authors conducted a data analysis comparing the book of mormon to over 100,000 books from the pre1830s era. The implications of tribal warfare are there from the beginning until about the time of the words of mormon where a transition to large armies appears to take place practices. The late war, a narrative of the war of 1812 written in pseudobiblical style, contains a remarkably high number of direct parallels in language. Instead of reading the designated bom passage, i will mistakenly read a passage from the late war. The book of mormon compared to the late war and the american revolution much less, on the right hand side. He seems to be the same guy who also endorsed the book of mormon unless there were two renowned dr samuel l. After comparing the book of mormon to over 5,000 books, they identified a few with similarities. In recent years the book of mormon has been compared to pseudobiblical texts like gilbert j. Mar 03, 2020 it seems likely that most latterday saints are unfamiliar with the theory. Hunts the late war, the text compared most often to the book of mormon.
The chapter on warfare in john sorensons recent mormons codex. An ancient american book also should be read by anyone even mildly impressed with the late war as a possible explanation for the book of mormon. Motivation given the book of mormon is a regular human book. Stylometric comparisons with the late war uncovered the presence of many many short phrases in the book of mormon that are nearly unique to early 19 th century pseudobiblical writings. Although the book of mormon is a complex record, it is still very clear and purposeful. Nov 09, 20 this is a followup to my length post on curious parallels between the book of mormon and the late war against the united states. Its written in scriptural language and was published in 1816. Chiasmus appear in many forms of writing from many parts of the world. Nov 10, 2017 extensive computer analysis proves late war has more in common with other books, such as the american revolution by richard snowden, published in 1823, than it does with the book of mormon. The chapter on warfare in john sorensons recent mormon s codex.
Out of the top matches, we discovered a book called the late war between the united states and great britain, a scriptural style account of the war of 1812 published in new york in 1816. A comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain late war comparison by chris and duane johnson. This is where i publish my preliminary research notes and ideas concerning warfare in the book of mormon. While its hard not to yawn at many of the parallels from the latest, greatest smoking gun for book of mormon plagiarism, some of the parallels from that obscure book, the late war against the united states, are certainly. Was the late war against the united states a source for.
The internets been abuzz with hype this week about a new computer study by duane and chris johnson which purports to identify four literary influences on the book of mormon besides the king james bible gilbert j. Additional computer analysis demonstrates that regarding noncontextual words, archaic words, structure of the language, unusual words, distinguishing phrases, and content topics, the book of mormon is more similar to king james style than the late war. Several studies by chris and duane johnson compared the texts of 5,270 books published between 1500 and 1830 to the book of mormon. Scriptural style in early nineteenth century american literature. New computer study purports to detect literary influences. The book reads very similarly to the book of mormon, down to captain jackson like a captain moroni and many other similarities published for kids and youth for schools in america, maybe as a way god could get the rising generations to also appreciate another pattern of his working even through the late war in the promised land, also maybe showing to the future corporate church that god is. One would think, however, that iss would prevent such mediated influence from showing up as statistically significant in the results. The late war between the united states and great britain.
Extensive computer analysis proves late war has more in common with other books, such as the american revolution by richard snowden, published in 1823, than it does with the book of mormon. It seems lately that theyve backed off that verbiage somewhat. Some have found strong linguistic correspondence and declared that there is an authorial relationship. The book of mormon, the late war, and what we learned from. Book of mormonplagiarism accusationsthe late war fairmormon. Late war by gilbert hunt recently as a possible source for understanding the language, style, and narrative content of the book of mormon. The late war against the book of mormon book of mormon. The late war is an account of the war of 1812 which is written in the style of the king james bible. Although present in the book of mormon, and ancient hebrew, they are also found elsewhere, including an description of the concept in a mid1920s bible commentary written by adam clarke, and a 21 level chiasmus is found in the late war, a book published before the book of.
Oct 27, 20 several studies by chris and duane johnson compared the texts of 5,270 books published between 1500 and 1830 to the book of mormon. Does statistical analysis of the late war against the united states show evidence of plagiarism in the book of mormon. While its hard not to yawn at many of the parallels from the latest, greatest smoking gun for book of mormon plagiarism, some of the parallels from that obscure book, the late war against the united states, are certainly interesting, at least on first glance at. The study attempts to connect the book of mormon to a text published in 1816.
Parallels for the 2,000 stripling warriors in the book of. The book reads very similarly to the book of mormon, down to captain jackson like a captain moroni and many other similarities published for kids and youth for schools in america, maybe as a way god could get the rising generations to also appreciate another pattern of his working even through the late war in the promised land, also maybe showing to the future corporate. The late war between the united states and great britain from june, 1812, to february 1815 g. Chris johnsons exmormon conference talk explaining the research that found a connection between the late war1816 and the book of mormon1830 chris johnsons website. Aug 09, 2019 the second argument by lds scholarsthat there are more differences than similarities between the late war and the book of mormonis an argument against outright plagiarism, but it rings hollow because it does not refute the critics point that the late war influenced at least the vocabulary joseph used in producing the book of mormon. The rediscovery of the late war by gilbert hunt recently as a possible source for understanding the language, style, and narrative content of the book of mormon has already elicited a considerable. A 19 th century book, the history of the late war between the united states and great britain, has been mentioned before now as a possible source for the book of mormon, most notably by rick grunder in his 2008 work, mormon parallels. Book of mormon plagiarism theories and the late war jeff lindsay.
The book of mormon is often called the keystone of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints otherwise known as the mormon church. This is a followup to my length post on curious parallels between the book of mormon and the late war against the united states. These book of mormon verses should match the inspired jst version instead of the incorrect kjv version that joseph later fixed. Jul 26, 2019 the book of mormon and the late war both describe fighting for liberty from kings late war p. The book of mormon is negatively correlated with all four pseudobiblical writings, usually strongly negatively correlated, and especially with gilbert j. It has been claimed by critics chris and duane johnson that the late war is a potential source of influence on joseph smith in his composition of the book of mormon. Was the beginning of the book of mormon derived from the first book of napoleon. The late war between the united states and great britain is an educational text written by gilbert j. The problem that chris and duane johnson made in their late war argument was couching their statements with phrasing suggesting that the book of mormon was copied from the late war.
But the suggestion that joseph smith may have used this book in his writing of the book of mormon hasnt seemed to gain much traction. This is a spot for civilians, military historians, members of the lds church and anybody else who enjoys studying the military aspects of the book of mormon and its impact on the lds church, society and the field of military history. Aug 28, 2017 an easy target for critics of the book of mormon is its reported army sizes and battle casualties. This indicates that jane austens work was less influenced by her literary culture than the book of mormon. New developments in the investigation into the origins of the book of mormon. The late war is essentially a history book about the war of 1812. But the suggestion that joseph smith may have used this book in his writing of the book of mormon. The final extermination of the nephites, for instance, reportedly involved tens of thousands of combatants and hundreds of thousands of combatant and noncombatant casualties mormon 6.
Oct 27, 20 the late war appears to be a supported literary style within a genre. Book of mormon defenders as evidence of an underlying ancient hebrew text. We build enduring faith in jesus christ by making the book of mormon accessible, comprehensible, and defensible to the entire world. Essentially the argument against the book of mormon goes something like this. Oct 27, 20 johnson and johnson speculate that the first book of napoleon influenced the late war, and that the formers influence may have been mediated to the book of mormon via the latter. In 20, the late war was the subject of discussion among both exmormons and mormon apologists. So if the late war is removed from the list of potential sources. Do hebraisms in the late war undermine the ones in the.
Although present in the book of mormon, and ancient hebrew, they are also found elsewhere, including an description of the concept in a mid1920s bible commentary written by adam clarke, and a 21 level chiasmus is found in the late war, a book published before the book of mormon. An assumption is being made that joseph smith must have read gilbert hunts the late war in the absence of any evidence to support it. The late war was a direct source for some of the language and content of the book of mormon. The late war against the book of mormon interpreter. The late war uses words or phrases that also appear in the book of mormon. The book of mormon includes mistranslated biblical passages that were later changed in joseph smiths translation of the bible. Debunking the connection between the late war and the. The latter is a history of the war of 1812 deliberately written in a scriptural style. An easy target for critics of the book of mormon is its reported army sizes and battle casualties. The mesoamerican elements consistent with the book of mormon, and foreign to what joseph might have known, deserve serious consideration. Can we, who have studied it for decades of our lives, better explain its origins.
The late war was designed to inculcate a knowledge of recent history and a spirit of patriotism in students who might be called upon one. A journal of mormon scripture 7 kindle edition by mcguire, benjamin l download it once and read it on your kindle device, pc, phones or tablets. Having names and dates for these wars can help readers keep all of this confusing action straight. The book of mormon and the late war both describe fighting for liberty from kings late war p. The approximate dates and locations of these wars, along with accompanying scriptural references, are listed in this chart. Common phrases scriptural style in early nineteenth literature. Oct 30, 20 the rediscovery of the late war by gilbert hunt recently as a possible source for understanding the language, style, and narrative content of the book of mormon has already elicited a considerable. Hunt, the late war, between the united states and great britain, from june 1812, to february 1815 1816 modeste gruau, the first book of. Believers in a miraculous origin for the book of mormon dismiss that claim. The book of mormon was consciously styled in the language of the late war but was not dependent on it for literary content. Hunt, contains many parallels to the book of mormon.
A typical example of the differences between the bom, the kjv, and the jst. These episodes are best seen as a continuation of our discussion from earlier this year wherein john hamer provides a 19th century context for the book of mormon john hamer graciously created a number of slides that give. A presentation by chris and duane johnson proposed a new statistical model for discussing authorship of the book of mormon. The late war is an account of the war of 1812 written in the style of the king james bible. The 2008 work mormon parallels and a 2010 work have discussed possible similarities.
While religious freedom and freedom from tyranny are aspects of american history, the kjv apocrypha and flavius josephus are just some of the ancient sources where these same themes. A comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain. Scriptural style in early nineteenth century american literature including the late war by gilbert j. The late war against the book of mormon mcguire, benjamin l the late war against the book of mormon. The second argument by lds scholarsthat there are more differences than similarities between the late war and the book of mormonis an argument against outright plagiarism, but it rings hollow because it does not refute the critics point that the late war influenced at least the vocabulary joseph used in producing the book of mormon differences. Surprisingly, the uniform match score between the book of mormon and the late war scoring 0. Association with the book of mormon edit in the 21st century, speculation arose that the late war influenced the 1830 work the book of mormon. Join us now for this mormon stories podcast episode, where historian john hamer offers his theory as to how the book of mormon was created. Nov 07, 20 the late war and the book of mormon posted on november 7, 20 by sharon lindbloom a 19 th century book, the history of the late war between the united states and great britain, has been mentioned before now as a possible source for the book of mormon, most notably by rick grunder in his 2008 work, mormon parallels. Do hebraisms in the late war undermine the ones in the book. The book of mormon is written in pseudobiblical, 19 th century language.
Mormonleaks is a research project that seeks to reconstruct the authentic narrative of the origins of the mormon canon by combining macroanalytic computing tools with contemporary historical evidence the historical records reveal a small pool of candidate authors collaborating in western new york and northern ohio to create the mormon scriptures. Answering the ces letter 15 17 the late war brian hales pt. Hunt by matt roper and paul fields the late war against the book of mormon, by benjamin l. Did joseph smith steal from the late war to write the book of. Again, comparing the american revolution and the late war, and the similarity of the use of the king james style frequency phrases, the late war and the american revolution are over 12 times more similar to each other than the other documents.
Chris johnson, duane johnson, in a comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain,propose a number of. Was the late war against the united states a source for the. Why the book of mormons battle numbers dont add up and. Did joseph smith steal from the late war to write the book. What do mormons think about the theory that the 1816 book. The authors believe their studies indicate the book of mormon is dependent on the book the late war, between the united states and great britain, from june 1812, to february 1815. The late war uses words or phrases that also appear in. The late war appears to be a supported literary style within a genre. Between 1817 and 1819 it was marketed for the use of. The late war, the book of mormon, and big data duane johnson 2. Late war shares 70 phrases that are 49 words long with the book of mormon, but shares 382 with american revolution.
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